Plogue.com

by **seb@plogue** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:34 pm

I've also uploaded a test version (application only) for a reworked graph processing code that should facilitate the addition of new signal type, this also includes the Discrete signal type aimed to replace cases where everything runs at sampling rate when it really should not (think of it as MIDI like events with a value), many building blocks are not also available in the Discrete section.

OS X : http://www.plogue.com/bidule/latest/PlogueBiduleP2OSX.zip
Windows: http://www.plogue.com/bidule/latest/PlogueBiduleP2.zip

Be aware that it is entirely possible that some of your existing layouts might not produce sound with this test version, if this is the case, please send me your layout.

by **Kewl** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:48 pm

It actually crashes... Report included. The layout is mostly made with SonicBirth-made AU plug-ins, some Waves AU, some Apple AU, a few VSTs and Bidule file player and recorder.

- Daniel

by **seb@plogue** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:03 pm

Seems to be coming from what is set to bypass... I'll check.

by **boonier** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:08 pm

Is this basically to save unnecessary cpu cycles?
and
Basic Audio File Player 2 -- woop woop

cheers Seb

by **seb@plogue** » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:25 pm

Is this basically to save unnecessary cpu cycles?

Yes.

by **boonier** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:53 pm

many building blocks are not also available in the Discrete section

I noticed things like sample and hold missing, index value list and so on. Is this likely to be the case for the forseeable? I'm trying get my head round typical use case scenarios where these could be employed to save cpu. It seems like certain tasks like generating a random number would require an inordinate amount of cabling...into the audio domain, grab the value, back into the block domain etc.

Maybe all the buiding blocks should have this functionality. I noticed there is a discrete Counter, but no discrete TriggerClock or Accum. Is this because they're driven at sample rate? What rate, therefore, is counter driven at?

So many questions!
cheers

by **seb@plogue** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:08 pm

I noticed things like sample and hold missing, index value list and so on.

Indexed value list looks like an oversight, sample and hold is a case where i'm not convinced on how to make it work in the discrete case

I noticed there is a discrete Counter, but no discrete TriggerClock or Accum. Is this because they're driven at sample rate? What rate, therefore, is counter driven at?

The list of discrete bidules is not final, there is simply enough of them to be able to build useful things so any issues with the graph processing changes can be flagged before moving on.

by **boonier** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:42 pm

Ah right, well I'm interested to see where this is going....
thanks

by **dts350z** » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:51 pm

On windows 7 64 bit crash on startup

Code: Select all: I:0x 2:38444:20673261:C:\Users\gnewell\AppData\Roaming\Plogue\Bidule\bidule.log opened on: Wed Jul 07 16:48:27 2010 I:0x 2:38444:20673261:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20673261:Plogue Bidule 0.9705 ( built : Jul 5 2010 ) log file I:0x 2:38444:20673261:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20673261:looking for: C:\Users\gnewell\AppData\Local\Temp\bidule.params ... I:0x 2:38444:20673261:NOT found, running as master! I:0x 2:38444:20673261:Streamer::Streamer() I:0x 102:38444:20673261:OSCServer - normalizeParameterValues : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20673261:Your message dirIe:c0txory is : C:\Program2 F:iles (x86)\P3l9o6g5u2e\:Bidule\mes2s0a6g7e3s2 61:Streamer::entry() in I:0x 102:38444:20673261:locale guessed system language: English (U.S.) I:0x 102:38444:20673261:No catalog loaded using default locale I:0x 2:38444:20673270:C:\Users\gnewell\AppData\Roaming\Plogue\Bidule\License\plg_key_215790.bin stuff you dont need to know about I:0x 2:38444:20673271:License valid, getting reg name I:0x 2:38444:20673271:Plogue Bidule 0.9705 (Jul 5 2010) I:0x 2:38444:20673271: Registered to: Glenn Newell I:0x 2:38444:20673284:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20673285:Skin::load default I:0x 2:38444:20673285:Skin::load skinPath C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\Skins\default\skin I:0x 2:38444:20673285:Reading Skin: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\Skins\default\skin I:0x 2:38444:20673285:Reading default Skin: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\Skins\default\skin I:0x 2:38444:20673287:TIMER METHOD: QueryPerformanceCounter() I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Detecting CPU speed: 2660 Mhz I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Active CPUs : 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674287:cpuid(1) EAX:0x1067a EBX:0x20800 ECX:0xc08e3fd EDX:0xbfebfbff I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Embedded CPU vendor: GenuineIntel I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Embedded CPU name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9550 @ 2.66GHz I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Guessed CPU name: INTEL Pentium III Katmai I:0x 2:38444:20674287:family : 6 ex: 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:model : 7 ex: 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:stepping: 10 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:feature : 0x17 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:MMX:1 3DNOW:0 SSE:1 SSE2:1 SSE3:1 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:os_support: 0x17 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:MMX:1 3DNOW:0 SSE:1 SSE2:1 SSE3:1 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:Intel HT/Multicore :1,2,1 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:AffinityMasks: 0x3 0x3 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674287:page size: 0x1000 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:min add : 0x10000 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:max add : 0x7ffeffff I:0x 2:38444:20674287:granula : 0x10000 I:0x 2:38444:20674287:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674288:process working size: (204800,1413120) I:0x 2:38444:20674288:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674288:OEM Code Page:437 I:0x 2:38444:20674288:win32 custom OS Detection : Windows Vista Windows XP Media Center Edition (build 7600) I:0x 2:38444:20674288:win32 _MSC_VER:1200 I:0x 2:38444:20674288:Testing random numbers: 0.0526705 0.201939 0.300564 0.544839 I:0x 2:38444:20674288:Math assessments-------- I:0x 2:38444:20674288:Math assessments passed I:0x 2:38444:20674288:Initialising System Done! I:0x 102:38444:20674292:Current Resolution: 1920x1200 II::00xx 102: 2:38444:32142006:74292:-2-0-6-7-4-2-9-2--:---------0-- -D-S-P-W-o-r-k-e-r-T-h-r-e-a-d- -i-n- --------------------------------------- I:0x 102:38444:20674293:plaf path:C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\PLAF_x86.dll I:0x 102:38444:20674294:sndfile path:C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\libsndfile_x86.dll I:0x 102:38444:20674294:Success attaching to libsndfile-1.0.18pre21 I:0x 102:38444:20674294:Libsndfile supports these file types: I:0x 102:38444:20674294:AIFF (Apple/SGI) (extension: aiff) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:AIFF (Apple/SGI) (extension: aif) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:AU (Sun/NeXT) (extension: au) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:AVR (Audio Visual Research) (extension: avr) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:CAF (Apple Core Audio File) (extension: caf) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:FLAC (FLAC Lossless Audio Codec) (extension: flac) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:HTK (HMM Tool Kit) (extension: htk) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:IFF (Amiga IFF/SVX8/SV16) (extension: iff) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:MAT4 (GNU Octave 2.0 / Matlab 4.2) (extension: mat) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:MAT5 (GNU Octave 2.1 / Matlab 5.0) (extension: mat) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:OGG (OGG Container format) (extension: oga) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:PAF (Ensoniq PARIS) (extension: paf) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:PVF (Portable Voice Format) (extension: pvf) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:RAW (header-less) (extension: raw) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:SD2 (Sound Designer II) (extension: sd2) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:SDS (Midi Sample Dump Standard) (extension: sds) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:SF (Berkeley/IRCAM/CARL) (extension: sf) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:VOC (Creative Labs) (extension: voc) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:W64 (SoundFoundry WAVE 64) (extension: w64) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:WAV (Microsoft) (extension: wav) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:WAV (NIST Sphere) (extension: wav) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:WAVEX (Microsoft) (extension: wav) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:WVE (Psion Series 3) (extension: wve) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:XI (FastTracker 2) (extension: xi) I:0x 102:38444:20674294:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674317:Using PortAudio V19-devel (built Dec 1 2008 11:50:16) I:0x 2:38444:20674317:Initialising Devices... I:0x 2:38444:20674317:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674317:before paHostApiInitializers[0]. I:0x 2:38444:20674340:after paHostApiInitializers[0]. I:0x 2:38444:20674340:before paHostApiInitializers[1]. I:0x 2:38444:20674340:PaWinDs_Initialize passed CoInitialize. I:0x 2:38444:20674340:PaWinDs_Initialize before PaWinDs_InitializeDSoundEntryPoints. I:0x 2:38444:20674341:PaWinDs_Initialize after PaWinDs_InitializeDSoundEntryPoints. I:0x 2:38444:20674341:PaWinDs_Initialize before InitializeDSDeviceNameAndGUIDVector 1. I:0x 2:38444:20674341:PaWinDs_Initialize before InitializeDSDeviceNameAndGUIDVector 2. I:0x 2:38444:20674341:PaWinDs_Initialize before DirectSoundCaptureEnumerate. I:0x 2:38444:20674346:PaWinDs_Initialize before DirectSoundEnumerate. I:0x 102:38444:20674352:PaWinDs_Initialize before FindDevicePnpInterfaces. I:0x 102:38444:20674352:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddInputDeviceInfoFromDirectSoundCapture. I:0x 102:38444:20674352:Primary Sound Capture Driver I:0x 102:38444:20674353:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddInputDeviceInfoFromDirectSoundCapture. I:0x 102:38444:20674353:Microphone (TANDBERG Audio) I:0x 102:38444:20674354:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddInputDeviceInfoFromDirectSoundCapture. I:0x 102:38444:20674354:Microphone (High Definition Audio Device) I:0x 2:38444:20674355:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddInputDeviceInfoFromDirectSoundCapture. I:0x 2:38444:20674355:Line In (High Definition Audio Device) I:0x 2:38444:20674355:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddInputDeviceInfoFromDirectSoundCapture. I:0x 2:38444:20674355:Microphone (3- USB Audio Device) I:0x 2:38444:20674356:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddOutputDeviceInfoFromDirectSound. I:0x 2:38444:20674356:Primary Sound Driver I:0x 2:38444:20674362:PaWinDs_Initialize before AddOutputDeviceInfoFromDirectSound. I:0x 2:38444:20674362:Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) I:0x 2:38444:20674368:PaWinDs_Initialize before TerminateDSDeviceNameAndGUIDVector 1. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:PaWinDs_Initialize before TerminateDSDeviceNameAndGUIDVector 2. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:PaWinDs_Initialize before callbacks setup. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:PaWinDs_Initialize all done. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:after paHostApiInitializers[1]. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:before paHostApiInitializers[2]. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:after paHostApiInitializers[2]. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:before paHostApiInitializers[3]. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:after paHostApiInitializers[3]. I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Passed Pa_Initialize() I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Now enumerating Audio Devices... I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Passed Pa_CountDevices() I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Found 14 : I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Dev:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Name = Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input(in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Dev:1 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Name = Microphone (TANDBERG Audio)(in) Max Inputs = 1, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Dev:2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Name = Microphone (High Definition Aud(in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Dev:3 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Name = Line In (High Definition Audio (in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674368:Dev:4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Microphone (3- USB Audio Device(in) Max Inputs = 1, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:5 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out) Max Inputs = 0, Max Outputs = 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:6 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = MME I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Speakers (High Definition Audio(out) Max Inputs = 0, Max Outputs = 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0.2 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0.4 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:7 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Primary Sound Capture Driver(in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:8 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Microphone (TANDBERG Audio)_1(in) Max Inputs = 1, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:9 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Name = Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)(in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674369:Dev:10 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Name = Line In (High Definition Audio Device)(in) Max Inputs = 2, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Dev:11 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Name = Microphone (3- USB Audio Device)(in) Max Inputs = 1, Max Outputs = 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Dev:12 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Name = Primary Sound Driver(out) Max Inputs = 0, Max Outputs = 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Dev:13 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:API = Windows DirectSound I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Name = Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)(out) Max Inputs = 0, Max Outputs = 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default LowOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighInputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default HighOutputLatency:0 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Default SampleRate:44100 I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Now enumerating MIDI Devices... I:0x 2:38444:20674370:MIDI_0 interf:*Windows* Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:Now enumerating Slave Devices... I:0x 2:38444:20674370:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674370:RewireManager::init() in I:0x 2:38444:20674370:RewireManager Starting ReWire! I:0x 2:38444:20674374:Enumeration ReWire Devices: I:0x 2:38444:20674374:------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I:0x 2:38444:20674374:Name :Plogue Bidule Device I:0x 2:38444:20674374:Channels:16 I:0x 2:38444:20674374:Using ReWire Version:1000000 I:0x 2:38444:20674374:RewireManager::init() out I:0x 2:38444:20674374:Windows DLL versions loaded: I:0x 2:38444:20674374:C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674374:C:\Windows\syswow64\kernel32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674374:C:\Windows\syswow64\USER32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674374:C:\Windows\syswow64\GDI32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\syswow64\ADVAPI32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\syswow64\SHELL32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\syswow64\comdlg32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_5.82.7600.16385_none_ebf82fc36c758ad5\COMCTL32.dll(5.82.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\syswow64\ole32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674375:C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674376:C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll(6.1.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674376:C:\Windows\system\ReWire.dll(1.4.4.71) I:0x 2:38444:20674376:C:\Windows\syswow64\msvcrt.dll(7.0.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674376:C:\Windows\system32\MSVCP60.dll(7.0.7600.16385) I:0x 2:38444:20674376:Factory init I:0x 2:38444:20674380:Factory init VSTFactory I:0x 2:38444:20674380:VSTFactory init I:0x 102:38444:20674400:Factory init AudioDeviceFactory I:0x 102:38444:20674400:Factory init MIDIDeviceFactory I:0x 102:38444:20674400:Factory init RewireDeviceFactory I:0x 102:38444:20674400:Factory init SlaveDeviceFactory I:0x 102:38444:20674400:Factory init GroupFactory1 I:0x 2:38444:20674419:Factory init GroupFactory2 I:0x 2:38444:20674419:Factory init PluginFactory I:0x 2:38444:20674420:attempting to load : C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\plugins\LivePCbidules.dll I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before queriying numBidules I:0x 2:38444:20674423:there is 20 bidules I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 1 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 1 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 3 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 3 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 4 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 4 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 5 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 5 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 6 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 6 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 7 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 7 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 8 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 8 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 9 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 9 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 10 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 10 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 11 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:back from filling info : 11 I:0x 2:38444:20674423:before filling info : 12 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 12 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 13 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 13 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 14 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 14 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 15 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 15 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 16 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 16 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 17 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 17 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 18 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 18 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:before filling info : 19 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:back from filling info : 19 I:0x 2:38444:20674424:attempting to load : C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\plugins\Spec 4.2.dll I:0x 2:38444:20674427:before queriying numBidules I:0x 2:38444:20674427:there is 5 bidules I:0x 2:38444:20674427:before filling info : 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:back from filling info : 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:before filling info : 1 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:back from filling info : 1 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:before filling info : 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:back from filling info : 2 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:before filling info : 3 I:0x 2:38444:20674427:back from filling info : 3 I:0x 2:38444:20674428:before filling info : 4 I:0x 2:38444:20674428:back from filling info : 4 I:0x 2:38444:20674428:attempting to load : C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\plugins\Spec 4.3.dll I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before queriying numBidules I:0x 102:38444:20674431:there is 6 bidules I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 2 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 2 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 3 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 3 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 4 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 4 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:before filling info : 5 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:back from filling info : 5 I:0x 102:38444:20674431:attempting to load : C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\plugins\Zag 1.7.2.dll I:0x 102:38444:20674434:before queriying numBidules I:0x 102:38444:20674434:there is 2 bidules I:0x 102:38444:20674434:before filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674434:back from filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674434:before filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674434:back from filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674434:attempting to load : C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\plugins\Zag 1.8.dll I:0x 102:38444:20674437:before queriying numBidules I:0x 102:38444:20674437:there is 2 bidules I:0x 102:38444:20674437:before filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674437:back from filling info : 0 I:0x 102:38444:20674437:before filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674437:back from filling info : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:Factory init out I:0x 102:38444:20674438:after load factories 07/07/10 16:48:28 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:OnInit Close Splash I:0x 102:38444:20674438:BiduleInstance::init() 0x00ECC608 in I:0x 102:38444:20674438:DSPInfo ctor I:0x 102:38444:20674438:PpqEpsilon:0.000377929 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:Using SampleRate:44100 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:Using BufferSize:512 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:Using FFTSize: 8192 I:0x 102:38444:20674438:Using FFTOverlap:16 I:0x 2:38444:20674440:SysTimer created I:0x 2:38444:20674440:BiduleDocument ctor in I:0x 2:38444:20674440:BiduleDocument ctor out I:0x 2:38444:20674440:BiduleDocument looking for default.bidule I:0x 2:38444:20674440:--Loading C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\layouts\default.bidule I:0x 2:38444:20674444:XMLSerializer::load Building DOC in I:0x 2:38444:20674444:XMLSerializer::build in I:0x 2:38444:20674444:building children : 0 I:0x 2:38444:20674444:building children : 1 I:0x 102:38444:20674454:XMLSerializer::buildBidule of type : AudioOutput_0 with ID : UID_1026570523 I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out)) id:5 ins:0 outs:2 allocated! I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out)) ctor out I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out))::initialize in I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioDevice outputDevId : 5 I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out))::setIOParams, output, using device's default latency settings I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out))::initialize out I:0x 102:38444:20674454:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out)) is acquired I:0x 102:38444:20674454:XMLSerializer::buildBidule of type : MidiInput_0 with ID : UID_1026570524 E:0x 102:38444:20674454:Severe Bidule Crash! intrav:0 pbDirty:1 fp:0x9001f I:0x 102:38444:20674454:about to close ReWire I:0x 102:38444:20674454:RewireManager::close() in I:0x 102:38444:20674454:ReWire MixerClosing done1 I:0x 102:38444:20674456:RewireManager::close() out I:0x 102:38444:20674456:ReWire closed I:0x 102:38444:20674456:pa_terminate() about to be called... I:0x 102:38444:20674456:TerminateHostApis in I:0x 102:38444:20674456:TerminateHostApis out I:0x 102:38444:20674456:pa_terminate() call done I:0x 102:38444:20674456:trying to shutdown all MIDI devices I:0x 102:38444:20674456:shutdown all MIDI devices done 38444 StackTraceExceptionFilter in Unhandled Exception Code: c0000005 Description: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Call stack: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Module: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\PlogueBiduleP2.exe no debug information address: 771A89 no debug information address: 76D7C9 ------------------------------------------------------------------ StackTraceExceptionFilter out

Sounds interesting though.

by **dts350z** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:02 am

I tried XP. Couldn't get it to start past the flash screen.

No errors in the log file. It ends with:

Code: Select all: I:0x 102:5480:810836:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out))::initialize out I:0x 102:5480:810836:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out)) is acquired I:0x 102:5480:810836:XMLSerializer::buildBidule of type : MidiInput_0 with ID : UID_1026570524

Visual studio says:

Unhandled exception at 0x00771a89 in PlogueBiduleP2.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000000.

by **dts350z** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:20 am

No Joy on PPC OSX 10.4.11 either

by **seb@plogue** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:59 am

This seems to be working for me (i.e. PPC 10.4.11, Windows 7 x64 & XP), do you have anything set to bypass in your default layout?
(I've updated the files to fix the bypass crash)

by **dts350z** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:52 pm

seb@plogue wrote:This seems to be working for me (i.e. PPC 10.4.11, Windows 7 x64 & XP), do you have anything set to bypass in your default layout?
(I've updated the files to fix the bypass crash)

No. Just the "default" default layout.

by **dts350z** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:00 pm

Let me try taking the midi device out of the layout.

This is from the "new" exe on windows 7 64 bit:

Code: Select all: I:0x 2:3448:2563737:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out))::initialize out I:0x 2:3448:2563737:AudioOutput_0(Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output(out)) is acquired I:0x 2:3448:2563737:XMLSerializer::buildBidule of type : MidiInput_0 with ID : UID_1026570524 E:0x 2:3448:2563737:Severe Bidule Crash! intrav:0 pbDirty:1 fp:0x9001f I:0x 2:3448:2563737:about to close ReWire I:0x 2:3448:2563738:RewireManager::close() in I:0x 2:3448:2563738:ReWire MixerClosing done1 I:0x 2:3448:2563739:RewireManager::close() out I:0x 2:3448:2563739:ReWire closed I:0x 2:3448:2563739:pa_terminate() about to be called... I:0x 2:3448:2563739:TerminateHostApis in I:0x 2:3448:2563739:TerminateHostApis out I:0x 2:3448:2563739:pa_terminate() call done I:0x 2:3448:2563739:trying to shutdown all MIDI devices I:0x 2:3448:2563739:shutdown all MIDI devices done 3448 StackTraceExceptionFilter in Unhandled Exception Code: c0000005 Description: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION Call stack: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Module: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plogue\Bidule\PlogueBiduleP2.exe no debug information address: 771AC9 no debug information address: 76D809 ------------------------------------------------------------------ StackTraceExceptionFilter out

by **dts350z** » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:04 pm

Yeah that enabled it to start.

None of the machines I was testing with had midi devices connected at the time, so would normally have a red midi device in the default layout.

removing the midi device and saving as default.bidule, with the released .9705, alowed me to start P2.

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