midi synchronized sequencers...

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midi synchronized sequencers...

Postby bdu » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:30 pm

I would think this has been done before, but I couldn't find it anywhere, so...

As a new user, one of the things that puzzled me was that the included step sequencers and stochastic note generators used internal timing generators exclusively, rather than any kind of external sync. It made no sense to me, since even if you weren't syncing to anything external to the layout you would still want multiple seqs IN the layout to seq to each other, which is easy to do with midi sync using a sync transport.

I went through and swapped out the timing generators for all those modules with one that would sync externally, as well as abstracted the 16 step seq's comparitors into a 16 step sequential switch group that cleans up it's internals a lot and makes it much easier to build new ideas on top of them. As an example of this, I made a 16 step trigger sequencer to go with it.

Anyhow, I thought other users might find this stuff handy (as I know at least one other user has avoided using the stochastic seqs due to this), so I zipped it all up and put it online here:

http://www.fdiskc.com/bidules/BDUSeqBidules.zip

I suppose at this point it's only a logic switch and gate module away from making versions of all these that use *either* external or internal syncronization, but I just didn't see the point given my comment above about using a sync transport to get everything going internal to the layout.
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Postby swhic » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:00 am

the right thing at the right moment

thanks a lot.

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Postby bdu » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:31 pm

I've updated these to include some newer goodies, in case anyone cares.

http://www.fdiskc.com/bidules/


16StepFreqSeq.bgrp
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Modification of the Plogue 16 step sequencer to sync from a clock source. This deprecates 16 Steps Seq Sync.bgrp

16StepKeyNoteSeq.bgrp
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16 step midi note sequencer that allows you to choose your key, your note withinthe key, and octave offset.

16StepNoteSeq.bgrp
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16 step midi note sequencer using note names (eg C0, F#2, etc)

16StepTriggerSeq.bgrp
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16 step trigger sequencer, can set static output note value or use external frequency control to choose the note. This deprecates 16 Steps Trigger Seq Sync.bgrp

16StepTriggerSeqRnd.bgrp
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Similar to above, except you can choose to set a step to "Random", in which case the random chance slider above will select the probability of this step sounding or not.

Stochastic MIDI Note List Sync.bgrp
Stochastic MIDI Note Sync.bgrp
Stochastic MIDI Seq Sync.bgrp
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Modifications of the Plogue stochastic seq modules to sync from an external sync source. These deprecate previous groups of the same name.
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Postby jersmi » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:12 pm

bdu wrote:I've updated these to include some newer goodies, in case anyone cares.

I care. Thanks! :D
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Postby blurk » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:33 pm

Looks interesting, thanks. I probably downloaded the earlier version but never got around to trying them. But I'm always interested in sequencer ideas and tweaks. Particularly on OS X, where there is a scarcity of sequencer plugins that I can use to work around the shortcomings of the Bidule sequencers. If I had some more free time, I'd like to work on some sequencers myself.
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Postby bdu » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:47 pm

OK, I just re-uploaded with some slight tweaks:

16StepProbSeq.bgrp
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Just like 16StepFreqSeq.bgrp, but outputs values between 0-1 for use with the 16StepTriggerSeqRnd's probability input

16StepTriggerSeqRnd.bgrp
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If you use the external probability input (0-1), the slider in the group itself will act as an offset to the incoming value.

If anyone ends up using and liking them, or making fun modifications using these as a base, let me know, I'm interested in what they end up doing...
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Postby dominik » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:08 pm

thanks a lot bdu.your website is also a lightweight....that's what i like.
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Postby chapelierfou » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:31 am

I am very interested in this. Thanks bdu!
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Postby livingston » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:30 am

I'm getting an error message with the 16StepTriggerSeqRnd group:

Unable to load: attribute 'readonly' is not declared for element 'preset'.

Any idea why that might be?
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Postby jersmi » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:12 pm

livingston wrote:I'm getting an error message with the 16StepTriggerSeqRnd group:

Unable to load: attribute 'readonly' is not declared for element 'preset'.

Any idea why that might be?

Are you using the latest version of bidule?
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Postby bdu » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:12 pm

livingston wrote:I'm getting an error message with the 16StepTriggerSeqRnd group:

Unable to load: attribute 'readonly' is not declared for element 'preset'.

Any idea why that might be?


These were all saved under .9501 osx UB. I guess older versions or alternate OSes are untested at the moment (though I could try windows tonight), what are you loading it up under?
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Postby seb@plogue » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:15 pm

The readonly attribute for preset was added in 0.9501 in order to have both dynamic snapshot and read-only preset as per this thread :

http://www.plogue.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2790
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Postby JM Charcot » Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:33 am

Thanks for these interesting groups!
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Postby bdu » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:38 pm

I've updated the zip file with a new group:

http://fdiskc.com/bidules/

Stochastic MIDI Note Select.bgrp
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Modification of Stochastic MIDI Note List Sync.bgrp, done for easier use by non-techie musicians. This group has 8 menus to select MIDI note values (1-8, ie C5, E4, etc), the "Note Select List" text entry box is where you tell it which of the 8 note values it should choose from when generating random notes. You can enter numbers in multiple times to weight them heavier than other notes. The "Durations List" is unchanged, this sets the possible random note lengths. The "Velocities List" is similar to the old "Amplitudes List", except values entered here are midi velocities (0-127) instead of amplitudes (0-1).
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Postby Per Boysen » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:03 am

bdu wrote:... in case anyone cares.


You bet I do! Downloading as I'm typing.... Thank you! :-)
Greetings from Sweden
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